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done today in federal offices is figuring out who or what is essential and who or what is not. here's the one number everybody agrees on. the 8th. that is the deadline. friday. tomorrow. the latest in a series of stop-gap spending bills expires at midnight tomorrow. the house will vote today on a one-week extension that republicans have push for days now and democrats continue to dismiss. it would couple $12 billion in immediate cuts with six months of funding for the pentagon. that's where i bring in cnn's dana bash on capitol hill and ed henry who's at the white house. ed, let's start with you. the president said that he would keep calling meetings as long as it takes. so is this all just for appearances or is work actually getting done there? >> no, i think they are pushing hard here, randi, at the white house and on capitol hill. the fact is the president had both of these leaders here late last night. they all individually came out and said all the right things but still they do not have a
deal. i'm told that senior white house aides working with senior congressional aides continue to work into the wee hours, something like 2:00 in the morning here at the white house to try and push this forward. dana will give you details about how close they are. i can tell you that the white house is focusing on, just as the president this hour sits down again with these congressional leaders. we just had had a top official from the office of management and budget come out an list some of the thing that will be shut down if the government closes. he pointed out the fha, for example, handles 20% of new loans and refinancing for people out there watching us right now. that will basically stop. also the nih can't take new patients. if you're filing a paper tax return before april 15th you're not going to be able to get a refun if the government closes at all. 400 walk-in centers all around the country to help you with that tax return will be closed. bottom line is, jay carney was just asked by a reporter, why then does the president want to veto this latest republican plan
that you mentioned with $12 billion in cuts? carney's response is basically the president is tired of these short-term bills. he wants something to fund the government for the rest of the year. >> all right, ed, thank you very much. let's goat dana bash. when people say that it is not the money, it's always the money. right? but here majority leader reid says the primary hangup is ideology. remind us what he means about that. >> there are lots of what's called policy riders that were in the republicans' bill in the house that democrats simply do not agree with. both sides agree that that is a huge hang-up, reminding you of what they are, the republicans band epa from regulating greenhouse gases. but the big one, abortion funding. you heard the democratic leader over and over again and democratic sources i talked to say the republicans are simply sticking to the idea of getting away with planned parenthood funding and if they are putting
forward compromises, they believe they're even, from their perspective, worse. republicans say that's certainly an issue but it is not the only issue. one other thing. because it is also about the money. just gives you a sense of the fact that they're actually disagreeing over what they disagree about, how much to cut. a democratic source told me they have tentative agreement on $34.5 billion. republicans say including the how the speaker in the press conference saying there is no agreement on the number. that's where they are heading into this meeting at the white house. again as ed said, they were pretty positive last night, not today. >> dana, get back to the one more week proposal by the republicans. is this an honest attempt to buy time or is it really a bid to deflect blame? >> depends on who you ask. democrats will say it is absolutely an attempt to deflect blame and, look, republicans admit, they don't want to get the blame if there is a government shutdown.
we'll probably see a vote on this proposal in the hour. it keeps the government open for a week but that is 12 billion inn in cuts. democrats aif you're really serious about keeping the government open, then you wouldn't cut this spending that they disagreed with. that's why the white house has said they'll veto anything that even gets to his desk but it won't even get that far because the senate will probably not take it up. before we end i want to show you something on this whole idea of the whole government shutting down. here in congress the furlough notices have already gone out. the warnings of who will be essential, who will be able to come to work and who will not. we just got this. we obtained this. this is actually a notice to a staffer telling them that they are essential, that they can come to work if the government is shut down. the criteria for "essential," here in congress, is to carry out the constitutional duties of congress. because if the government is shut down the house and senate, they still will be running. they will still be functioning. but the other duties there are security and to potentially help
to close down an office. that's an example of what we're seeing here, very interesting that these notices are already going out. >> we have the essentials and non-essentials, some will get paid and some will not. dana bash and ed henry for us, thank you both. imagine fighting and possibly dying for your country but not getting paid? that's kind what have will happen to the men and women serving in the u.s. military if there is a government shutdown. defense secretary robert gates explained to troops in baghdad today that if there is a shutdown for tomorrow and it runs for a week, troops would get half-way. if the shutdown continued until april 30th, they would miss a whole back check but would receive back pay. gates told the troops this was probably his last trip to iraq as defense secretary and that is today's sound effect. >> my highest priority in the nearly 4 1/2 years i've had this
job is to get you what you need to complete your mission and come home safely. from mraps to isr, mrak and more. but you're the ones that have actually done the job. i don't know how many trips i've made to iraq. maybe 134. something like that. and this will probably be my last one. and i just wanted to come and say thank you and tell you that working with you all has been the greatest privilege and the greatest honor of my life. >> gates has already said that he is stepping down this year. president obama has not yet named a successor. as the military prepares for a possible shutdown, i want to check in with our pentagon correspondent barbara starr. what are some of the new details that you're hearing about this? >> well randi, this is really topic number one around the pentagon today as they prepare for this possibility. we are told that within the hour, some guidance, some memos
to commanders around the world may be issued spelling out what will happen. we know some details now. basically the entire uniform military comes to work no matter what. none of them are exempt. everybody shows up. even o though may not get paid if the money runs out. there are three categories of what essentially are considered essential jobs. that is national security. anything relating to the wars in afghanistan, iraq, libya, hope for the people of japan, national security, public safety. anything related to the protection of human life. so if there is a natural disaster, a terrorist attack, the military still will be able to respond. but beyond that, the questions that are now arising, imagine medical care for the troops. that will be available. but perhaps commissaries where
they shop may not be available. earlier on capitol hill a very powerful senate democrat talked about the impact on troops and military families. >> i guess the best way we can thank the troops and their families is to make sure there's no gap in the receipt of their paychecks. i know every member of this committee is thinking about how to avoid that gap. >> but right now even though senator levin says he wants to avoid problems for the military, this is going to affect all troops. everyone from general david petraeus in afghanistan down to the lowest enlisted junior member of the u.s. military. it will affect troops in the field, their families waiting for them back home, and as we have talked about, even the wounded troops still lying in their hospital beds in military hospitals around the world trying to recover. they're going to get back pay but that may be very small comfort in the interim. >> that point it doesn't sound good enough, does it? barbara starr, thank you.
with a possible government shutdown growing closer by the minute, we want to hear from you. how will it most affect you and your family? share your video stories with us by going to cnn ireport.com. you can also join the conversation on our blog. cnn.com/ali. or by posting your thoughts on ali's facebook and twitter pages and my facebook and twitter pages as well. just go to any of those and let us know what you think about the pobt of a government shutdown and how it might affect you and those you care about. lawmakers listen up. every day americans are about to tell you what to cut and what to keep. their suggestions for keeping the government up and running next. big deal is on a mission for priceline. uncovering hotel freebies like instant discounts, free-nights... ...and free breakfast at hotels in virtually every city. so, thanks to this large man in a little jetpack... you can search thousands of hotel freebies... right now only at priceline.
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everyone has an opinion as to what lawmakers should do to keep the government from shutting down. so we decided to ask some every day americans how they would solve this budget dilemma. maggie lake joins me live from columbus circle in new york city. maggie, you're out there talking to people, asking what they would do if they were the ones making these all-important decisions. what are you hearing? >> that it's really hard, ran ki. listen be we all can agree there their is a lot of waste in washington that can go right away but that's only going to get you so far. if we want to get serious about tacking the deficit, we'll str to look at big ticket items -- social security, medicare, medicaid, defense spending. that makes up 75% of the budget. when i ask people what about
those programs, where would they want to cut from those programs, this is what they said to us. >> i'm a few years away -- not many years away -- from social security. i want my social security protected obviously. >> that's a no-go. >> that's a no-go. >> that's tricky. especially now what's going on in the middle east and -- >> we need health care. >> if i have to cut i'd have to put it in defense. >> as you can see, people are really divided. defense came up a little bit more than everything else but they're uncomfortable with all of this, which is why critics say politicians in washington should stop arguing over this 2011 budget and focus on the long term because it is going to be a long term conversation with the american people. >> anybody talk about higher taxes? anybody talk about that?
>> you can imagine the response to that. we group we talked to all shouted "no!" right away. the man said "only on the rich." that's what you hear all the time, people really not prepared for higher taxes. they feel like coming out of the financial crisis, the economy isn't strong enough. when you push them and say listen, you can't do this, can't cut spending and not raise taxes, they say there is a realization something needs to happen, they just aren't sure where it is. budget experts say it is both that needs to be done. >> what was the poll on the street? did they say that they think there will be a shutdown or that they'll resolve this? >> yeah. they're pretty cynical. they still think this is a lot of political noise and sort of campaigning already. i don't think they think there's going to be a shutdown. if it is a short one, probably not an issue. if it seems like it is going to stretch, many people would be surprised. then are they going to be mad or think this is progress? unclear right now. >> all right, our maggie lake on the streets of new york hearing
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this was supposed to be a rebound year for toyota. the company had struggled with a string of recalls going back to 2009 that affected more than 11 million vehicles. not the least of which were problems with stuck accelerators on its cam ray models. rising gas prices put toyota in a good position with its line of fuel efficient and hybrid cars. in fact the company said earlier this week it had sold its 1 millionth prius in the u.s. but the earthquake and tsunami in japan caused production and transportation problems for toyota in japan, and that's led to shortages for both cars an parts around the world. earlier this week toyota's president was in washington state to announce a new partnership with microsoft. cnn's poppy harlow caught up with him and asked him if production problems could force permanent changes. >> translator: although our plants in northeastern japan have been affected by this disaster, but currently we all have the prospect of achieving
recovery of those operations in that part of japan. and therefore at the moment we have no plan of relocating production activities going on in japan to other parts of the world. in terms of all capacity, already out of 7 million units we produce worldwide, 4 million out of 7 million are produced outside of japan in overseas operations and therefore we would like to maintain 3 million which is currently produced in japan to continue to be produced in japan. >> moody's investor services also considered counsel grading toyota's credit rating because of the financial fallout from last month's disaster. see more of poppy's interview at cnnmoney.com. catch your bottom line with christine romans each saturday morning at 9:30 eastern. don't miss your money with ali velshi saturdays at 1:00 eastern and sundays at 3:00. another earthquake hit japan just a few hours ago. this one a 7.1. it triggered tsunami warnings
that were later canceled. it was centered off miyagi, the same region where the original 9.0 quake hit almost a month ago. tokyo electric evacuated workers at the crippled fukushima nuclear plant after today's quake. the clock is ticking toward a shutdown of the federal government. senate majority leader harry reid says he thinks a government shutdown is "unavoidable" at this point. speaking on the senate floor, reid blamed the republicans for playing politics but house speaker john boehner says the disagreement goes deeper. the u.s. air force says it is going to reexamine its versions of the boeing 737s following an incident last week in which a southwest airlines 737 had a hole ripped in its ceiling mid flight. the air force says it operates two of the planes currently and they are both in service for v.i.p. flights which includes people such as the first lady or congressional leaders. president obama had huddles with the top two congressional leaders as a government shutdown draws even closer.
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that sounds like an automatic deal breaker. what's the word there? >> yeah, absolutely. the president a short time ago put out word that he's got an official veto threat now on the short term funding bill that republicans have put on the table. you've been talking about it with dana and others, $12 billion in cuts. they're also frustrated here at the white house that it is sort of a short-term bill. they say they want a long-term bill. a got an angry e-mail from a republican aide on the hill saying if you look further on the veto threat -- i've got it right here -- the white house says that the president will sign a short-term funding bill to keep the government open if he believes negotiators are making significant progress, and if it's clean, if it doesn't have any legislative riders on abortion or planned parenthood. basically republicans are saying hold on a second, president on one hand will veto a republican bill that's short term but also keeps the pentagon funded but will not veto another short term
bill if he likes it. so this is the game back and forth. they're going to keep doing this i suspect until we get closer and closer to midnight tomorrow night and there's still a lot of people in this town though, while they're doing contingency planning, who are still saying in private that they believe there will be a deal before we get to midnight. >> ed, i don't want to get you any or angry e-mails, but republicans were ultimately blamed for the shutdown in '95. clinton came out the winner. do you get the sense both sides are trying to avoid getting blamed this time around? >> absolutely. look no further than a picture last night of john boehner and harry reid emerging after what aides say was about 84 minutes of a private talk with president obama. here late last night in the oval office. you almost never see harry reid, john boehner standing next to each other, let alone saying a partially nice thing about each other or their respective parties. they did that largely to come out to the cameras and show we're trying to work this out.
if it all falls through and the government gets shut down, each side will be spinning this ferociously to try to make sure their party does not get the blame. but in these final hours now they're also maneuvering to at least show publicly that they're trying to work it out. that's what this white house meeting going on right now in the oval office is really all about. >> ed, dana showed us these furlough notices, at least one, that she'd gotten her hands on that already went out to a congressional employee. what's your plan for the white house in terms of workers considered essential or nonessential. how will they be notified whether or not to come to work? >> i was just talking to a white house staffer a few minutes ago who told me he believe he's non-essential which can be heartbreaking to some people, whether it's at the white house or anywhere else. he said at that point his blackberry would be cut off. in 1995 people did have blackberries or that way to stay connected to the office so they would be shut down so that people who are supposed to be
furloughed would not still be working outside the office. so legally they were complying with the government shutdown. two, it is very interesting to see what would be shut down and what would not. you would not be able to get a passport unless it was an emergency situation. if the government shuts down. on the other hand, the postal service will remain open, the faa will keep going to make sure our air traffic control is safe, et cetera. but interesting, jay carney just got a question a moment ago at his briefing, will air force one be grounded. jay carney didn't know the answer, said he'd have to check on it. he would assume if the president wants to go for a ride, he's the commander in chief. but that gives you an idea whether air force one would be grounded. they are going through this line by line and learning as they go. >> sounds like a lot still needs to be work out but hey, maybe we won't be a shutdown and all will be fine. if anyone emerges from that meeting, get right back to us. thanks, ed. a former student opens fire
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we're less than 36 hours from a possible government shutdown. senate majority leader harry reid says he thinks a government shutdown is unavoidable at this point. speaking on the senate floor, reid blamed the republicans for playing politics but house speaker john boehner says the disagreement goes deeper saying there is no agreement on numbers an the underlying policies. now to brazil. a gunman opened fire inside a school in rio de janeiro. the bloody rampage left 11 students dead, 18 others injured. the 23-year-old gunman was a former student at the school. cnn affiliate record tv says the man went into the school armed with two handguns. gunman fled and ran into military police. officers shot him and he later died of his wounds. 10,000 fewer people filed first-time claims for unemployment benefits last week. there were 382,000 claims, much lower than what economists were expecting. the decline follows the downward trend over the past few months.
raising hopes that the job market is slowly picking up some momentum. she may no longer be tweeting and missing in action but now we know what to call her, at least. that egyptian cobra who escaped from her bronx zoo enclosure has been named -- mia, or maybe mis. thousands submitted nominations to name the snake and 60,000 people voted on the final five names. we're watching the developing story on capitol hill and the white house. the budget battle, of course. tune in for a special hour of "cnn newsroom" coming your way at 2:00 p.m. eastern. our entire hour will focus on the possibility of a government shutdown. voters from across the country will be weighing in.
if students can't tackle math and science to fill high-skilled jobs, suzanne malveaux has more on one of the lowest performing schools in boston that's hoping to turn things around with the help of some federal dollars. >> reporter: 13-year-old eric hall is in the seventh grade at orchard gardens, one of boston's poorest performing schools. he says he's seen a lot since he start there had in kindergarten. >> i've seen different teachers, different principals. i seen students come and go. >> reporter: but this year is different. >> now it's gym, writing, reading, math, i pretty much enjoy all my classes. >> reporter: that's because orchard gardens is 1 of 5,000
schools around the government getting millions of dollars to turn around. we first visited the principal last september just before the school year started. >> we need to do something bold. we need to really restart orchard gardens. >> reporter: he hand-picked his staff to replace the 80% he fired. the turnaround rules mandate he replace at least half. he also has $3.7 million in grants to help him over the next three years. seven months into the year with standardized test season in full swing we we checked back in. >> i did not imagine we could be this far. in three years we'll have 90% of our kids on a college track. >> reporter: these could be monumental gains when you consider only 10% of the students were proficient in years past. >> now we're anywhere from 35% to 50% proficient in english and anywhere from 15% to 75% proficient in math. >> reporter: these are
projections. official scores from state tests won't be able until the summer. justin cohen works to improve failing schools. he calls the goals ambitious and cautions against declaring early victory. >> what happens is schools that have achieved fragile gains can often slide back into under performance once resources are taken away or attention is distracted. >> reporter: he says there's more at stake. >> what i worry about with school turnaround is we hit a plateau or we increase student scores to some extent but they're still performing well below their peers in more affluent neighborhoods. >> reporter: at orchard gardens, the improvements go beyond test scores. >> behavior, it's night an day. literally spent the first week of school just teaching them how to walk in and out of my classroom. >> reporter: eric hall things his school is doing something right. >> i found out this was a turnaround school, i thought it was going to be like headaches every day. but that's what actually made it
fun. >> reporter: "don't fail me, an education in america" documentary reported by soledad o'brien airs sunday, may 15th, at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. a deadly air strike on a rebel position in libya. who is to blame and the latest on a former congressman's bid to talk with gadhafi. oh wow, it's going to be great. i think i'm going to cry. [ laughs ] it's gonna mean so much, because i've made it. you know. [ woman ] i think it's gonna be amazing. i don't even know how -- i'll probably cry. i'm going to realize "i did it". it's mine, and nobody can take that away from me. [ man #1 ] it's sort of bittersweet, only, because it's the end of something that i've put a lot of time and a lot of effort into. but it's also the beginning of something new. [ cheers and applause ] when i got my medicare card, i realized i needed an aarp... medicare supplement insurance card, too. medicare is one of the great things about turning 65, but it doesn't cover everything. in fact, it only pays up to 80% of your part b expenses.
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rebels in eastern libya say their forces were mistakenly hit in a nato air strike today. reuters and the bbc say several rebels and civilians were killed and wounded. it happened near the port city of brega and if confirmed would be the second time nato planes have bombed rebel forces since last week. rebels expressed outrage over this attack. nato says it is looking into the report. also today, rebels continued fighting forces loyal to gadhafi for control of beret za atoday m -- beret today and misratah. well done is in libya on a private mission in a bid to get gadhafi to step down. in the ivory coast, time appears to be running out for former president bogbo. france says he only has 1,000 remaining fighters. fighting has raged for weeks between his forces and those
loyal to the man internationally recognized as the winner of last year's presidential election. french defense officials say 200 of bagbo's men are holed up with him in his bunker. french forces clashed with fighters today in a dramatic rescue of the japanese ambassador and his staff. this -- these pictures here show the rescue operation under way. so dramatic. the french moved in after forces broke into the ambassador's residence overnight. the ambassador and his staff were flown to safety in french helicopters. we tell you a lot about the war and military strategy to win hearts and minds in afghanistan. but what if you could simply make people's lives there better by finding a way to provide them with electricity? the tricky part -- there's no power grid. but one guy has found a way to make it all work and he is today's big eye. i want to introduce you to tony woods, owner and director of sustainable energy services
afghanistan. and jeff chu of "fast company" magazine. tony, start with you. tell me what you do exactly and what your organization provides. >> yeah. what we do is provide electricity services for communities in the remote parts of the country that have no access to any electrical network. so we build the complete network, then power it with renewable energy services like solar or wind to power up the network. >> about creating this network and improving the infrastructure, you improve lives, right, as well. >> yeah, that's really the end game for what we do is to try to introduce some form of stability or create employment. generally get the economy going by providing the infrastructure foundation for it to grow on. yeah, that's the goal. >> for those who don't follow this story so closely, talk to us just a little bit about the
need for this there. >> yeah. afghanistan's one of the most unelectrified countries on the planet. i think at the moment the levels of electification, it is only 10% of the population have access to energy. so the need for energy is tremendous. we all know where the unemployment ends up if you have large pool of young men with no work, it doesn't lead anywhere good. so what we do is try to provide the mechanism for the economy to get on its feet. >> it really is incredible work. i'd like to bring in jeff. jeff, you've profiled tony's work in the april edition of "fast company" magazine. we have the cover. how did you find out about this story? >> one of my reporters was going to afghanistan and she said, oh, i want to do an embed. i said an embed is fine, we're not "the new york times." bring we something we haven't heard about. we write about innovation in
"fast company" but innovation is only good as long as it changes people's live. she came back with this story about a company that not only creates electification in various parts of afghanistan, but also creates jobs, including hiring a woman who used to be a taliban wife who fled her husband and found a job in tony's company. that's technology that's transforming people's lives in a powerful way. >> so how impressed are you with what tony has managed to pull off there? >> we've spent nearly $60 billion. this is u.s. government money. $60 billion in afghanistan and this is one of the cases where a few million dollars has affected hundreds of lives. mid wives now have hot water when you deliver a baby in one valley. that improves the prospects of a successful delivery so much. there are unemployed people who now maintain these electrical systems and have new skills because of tony's company. so it's promising and we're excited about the potential of the technology there.
>> tony, how do you feel about being painted as a little bit of a hero in a story like this? >> oh, i think, yeah, hero's probably a little over the top for me. we're pretty excited to be involved in a project like this really. we don't see anything particularly special in what we do. i know from outside it looks like way, but for us it is business as usual really. >> all right, tony woods, the owner and director of sustainable energy services afghanistan, and jeff chu of "fast company" magazine, good luck to you both and continued good work. to read about this in full, go to our blog, cnn.com/ali. we'll link you to the fast company article there as well. new polling out on possible republican presidential contenders. the donald is among them. we'll see how he ranks next. [ male announcer ] surprisingly priced at $15,995, the 2011 jetta has arrived. discover german engineering and premium style on the jetta s
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just about ten minutes before the hour. time now for a cnn political update. cnn senior political editor mark preston and cnn deputy political director paul steinhauser join me now from washington. good to see you guys. paul, talk about the donald rising in the polls. >> he certainly is. randi, last month cnn made some big news in our poll and we had
had donald trump at 10%. now a brand-new nbc/"wall street journal" poll, donald trump at 17% among people who are likely to vote in the republican primaries next year. now that poll has him slightly behind mitt romney and tied with mike huckabee and pretty far ahead of newt gingrich and sarah palin and the rest of the gang. he's even higher among tea party supporters. why the rise in the polls for donald trump? he's well known obviously. he's been everywhere in the media lately, including cnn just today and also one other thing maybe contributing to this, that's the birther issue. he's been outspoken on that. that's where i pass it to my friend, mark preston. >> of course donald trump has been very successful in business. he's talked a lot about running for president in the past and in the past couple months we've heard a lot about his cricism of the obama administration. in the past few weeks he's hit home on the issue of weather president obama was born in the united states. in fact he said his skepticism
has grown. just in the last few weeks. let's haear what he had to say n cnn about this issue just about an hour ago. >> i hope he was born in the united states. i'd like him to be. because if i decide to run, i would like to really do it on a very, very straight-up, head-to-head, man-to-man basis. i mean honestly, i man-to-man basis. honestly, i hope he was born -- if it wasn't, it's the greatest scam in history. not political history. in history. >> donald trump talking about his skepticism that president obama might not have been born in the united states. if that is the case, he wouldn't be eligible to be president. but a lot of people, randi, think that his appeal is the fact he's been a very successful businessman and they're questioning why he's bringing up this whole idea about being a birther. we expect to hear a lot more from donald trump in the next six weeks or so and will make a decision about whether to run for president before june. >> i understand he's sending his own investigators to hawaii to get to the bottom of this.
all very interesting. he has been vocal about it. thank you, guys. we're watching the developing story on capitol hill and the white house. budget battle. tune for a special hour of cnn newsroom at 2:00 p.m. the entire hour focuses on a possibility of a government shutdown. voters from around the country will be weighing in. department of commerce estimates there was $165 billion in online sales last year, up nearly 15% from 2009. in today's connection, dan simon takes a look at an online retailer that is redefining e-commerce. >> reporter: nedi was in a rut, her 9:00 to 5:00 administrative job wasn't stimulating or lucrative. like a lot of people, she just needed a change. >> i heard through a friend they started this t-shirt store online. i thought, hmm, maybe i can try that. >> reporter: designing a t-shirt may not sound like a calling,
but it changed nidhi's life. this is zazzle. to call it a t-shirt store doesn't quite do it justice. it's a business that allows anyone to customize dozens of different products. from posters to ipad cases to shoes. users then have the option of ordering someone else's design. for nidhit began on her laptop. she looked to her indian heritage and humor for her first creation. >> you say potato, i say alu. >> reporter: potato in hindu. >> the feeling is amazing. every time i got an e-mail, i made a sale. it's like i wanted to announce it to the world. it's different than getting a paycheck. it's something you created. >> reporter: what percentage of the sale the creator get? >> more than you expect. long story short, you can make 20%, 50%, 60% on a sale without ever touching it.
>> reporter: it's a formula that served jeff well. he launched the website in 2005 with his father and brother. he says zazzle is bringing in more than $100 million a year in revenue. zazzle users create 150,000 new products every day. literally every second new designs are being uploaded to the website. from there the machines take over, building that product exactly to your specification. the unique business model calls for only raw materials. no actual products until someone place answer order off the site. >> what we decided to do in terms of the business model is combine the best aspects of ebay marketplace and what dell was doing at the time which was compelling, mass customization for electronics. we thought if we can create a marketplace where designers can design products and post them for sale, if we can figure out how to make the products on the mend, that's pretty cool.
>> reporter: nidhi's products sold so well, she enrolled in art school. >> i thought, what am i doing with my life right now? is this a smart move? art isn't something people make money of. >> reporter: she's a full-time artist, selling her work on and off line. >> do you want me to sign it? >> reporter: a young woman much more fulfilled. >> i continue to see myself continuing to design and build. >> reporter: thanks to unique technology and innovative silicon valley company that helped provide the courage to tap into a creative yearning. dan simon, cnn, san francisco. tiger woods sets out in pursuit of his fifth green jacket. and this time he's not an overwhelming favorite. we'll take you live to augusta right after this. somewhere in america, a city comes to life. it moves effortlessly, breathes easily. it flows with clean water.
golf's green jacket is up for grabs. it's the first day of the masters tournament. two of the favorites, phil mickelson and tiger woods, haven't had the easiest of years. cnn's patrick snell joins me from augusta, georgia, with the latest. >> reporter: hi, randi. welcome to augusta. phil mickelson enters histhis 7
edition of the masters all smiles. last weekend he had his first win of the year, won houston open in texas. a victory that meant to much to him. it came a year to the day since his masters triumph last april here in augusta. for mickelson the last 18 months have been difficult in the extreme. after not just his wife, but also his mother were diagnosed with breast cancer. then in august last year, phil revealed he'd been battling a form of painful arth rice for months. his victory at the masters has been tempered by better, the poi poignancy of winning the third green jacket. >> special event for me, special week for me, amy, the family. at the time we were still right in the thick of a lot of things and it was a really big emotional boost for us. and things are going -- things have been going so much better. we're in such a better place now
that we're just really excited and appreciative. >> reporter: no stranger to off the course troubles, tiger woods is struggling to regain his former prominence. now ranked just seventh in the world, he's looking for his first major win since june of 2008. while rebuilding his image from a highly publicized divorce, tiger is trying to rebuild a swing that's left him winless since 2009. now at 35, time may no longer be on his side in his attempt to break jack nicklaus' all-time record of 18 major victories. >> taking a step back or sometimes even two steps back, there's nothing wrong with that if i'm going to make three, four, five steps forward and become better in the end. i'll sacrifice that, knowingly i'm going to become better. look at my track record. that's exactly what's happened. >> reporter: woods, would you believe, going for a first green jacket in some six years while mickelson looking for a second straight masters title.
one which could prove to be a tiger tieing fourth overall. we shall see, randi. >> patrick, do you have any sense, i know it's early, just gettg under way today. any sense who the fans want to see? is it going to be phil or tiger? >> reporter: well, certainly phil mickelson is a huge box office attraction. in fact, he's just gone past us and a fair number of fans were following him. i think already because tiger woods went out before him, the vast majority with the former number one tiger woods, as we speak on the course. mickelson's round just really in its very early stages. first hole for mickelson as i send it back to you. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. a government shutdown has real consequences for real people. >> no one wants the government to shut down. >> if this government shuts down and he doesn't get paid, i don't know what's going to happen. >> it's not supposed to happen like this. or is it? >> it's time for taxpayers to
take back the government and let's shut it down for a few days. >> funding the people's business is a tough job, but somebody has to do it, eventually. with one day left until the latest deadline, we, the people, watch and wait and wonder how a government on hiatus affects us. hello, welcome to a special hour in the cnn newsroom, countdown to shutdown. we're covering the country as only cnn can, to show you what the federal government is and what it does and what it won't do if it can't spend money. just as important, we're listening to you. it's your money the politicians are fighting over, your services, facilities, even paychecks. maybe even your paycheck hanging in the balance. cnn correspondents are fanned out from the pentagon to the pacific ocean counting down live to the first federal shutdown in more than 15 years. from jobs to parks to troops to outer space. we are bringing the government home in ways you might never
have imagined. we begin with two major questions. deal or no deal? and open or closed? president obama wants a deal, so he's brought the republican speaker of the house and the democratic leader of the senate back to the oval office in search of a plan to keep the government running for the rest of the fiscal year. that's a little less than six months. if they don't come to terms, every federal office or function or tourist attraction not considered essential will close up shop. beginning saturday. congressional staff members are finding out as we speak whether they'll be furloughed or required to keep working if the money runs out. and the same thing is going on in federal workplaces all across the country. the house will vote today on yet another stop gap spending bill. a one-week measure combining $12 billion in immediate cuts with six months of funding for the pentagon. the president says he will veto that. cnn's tom foreman is manning our countdown desk in d.c.
and he's done some digging on the impact a government shutdown might have. tom, what do we need to know? >> randi, what you need to know, the degree depends entirely on who you are, what you do and where you want to do it. if the government shutdowns who's affected? 800,000 federal workers could be furloughed as you mentioned. u.s. troops won't be paid on time. processing of paper tax returns and refunds will stop. if you file electronically, that's not the case. passport applications will be at a slower pace. national parks and museums will close. the approval of small business loans will stop at the sba. the epa would cease monitoring pollution. there would be no new clinical trials at nih. these are real problems for people connected to this. other people say, i'm not going to a national park, i filed electronically, i don't need a new passport, this doesn't affect me. it depends on your circumstances
how much you're going to care about this. if we look, however, at who does get paid and what continues operating here, the essential services are what continues. air traffic patrol, airport screening, border patrol, members of congress get paid. bottom line is, things that are considered essential will be paid. things that can be pushed off or delayed, randi -- we're not talking about people not getting paid at all. we're talking about a delay. that will be pushed off. >> even a delay for so many can be painful. thank you, tom. a government shutdown if it happens would have a huge impact on the nation's military. for one thing, paychecks for the men and women in uniform would be delayed as tom was talking about. kyle posted this on my twitter page today. i'm active duty military, myself. how do they expect me to provide for my 3 and 1-year-old children? i have to go but get no money. there are other serious situations as well. chris lawrence joins us from our washington studio.
you've been talking about the o this to the servicemen and women. >> they're worried. we're not talking about the general with 25 years of service. remember how young some of these military families are. married. one, two kids. they don't make a lot of money at the private level. private first class level. we were just talking with a woman. her husband deployed to iraq back in december. he's gone for a year. she has a 2-year-old and 3-month-old and she is, frankly, just horrified and scared to death at what's going to happen if the exact amount that she's used to getting every two weeks is not in that check next time. >> it's hard enough having a relationship and dealing with everything of them being over there and not home and telling your kids when they go to bed at night, sorry, daddy's still at work. then the financial stress of not having a paycheck and not
knowing when you're going to get it doesn't help. >> you know, as amy really explain to us, people say you should have savings, money to fall back on. when you're a 21-year-old couple with two kids and you're in the military, it doesn't give you much time to save up this huge nest egg. once she pays rent and buys the kids food and all the essentials, there's not a lot of money to go around. >> it's really a terrible thought to think these people might not get their money when they need it most. chris lawrence, thank you for bringing us those voices. the most important component of the u.s. military are the men and women serving in uniform. here are some other facts related to a possible shutdown. you may not be aware of. all va health care facilities would remain open in the event of a shutdown. some 285,000 va employees would
show up for work during a shutdown. now, on the downside, new disability claims would not be able to be processed, but suicide lines would remain open. the clock's ticking and we, of course, do want to hear from you. join our conversation on our blog, cnn.com/ali or post your thoughts on ali's facebook and twitter pages. check out my facebook and twitter pages as well. let us know what you're thinking. we want to hear your voices during this hour. we'll share your comments later on in the show. also share your video stories with us. if you can. by going to cnnireport.com. keep those i-reports coming. what happens when you put 800,000 people out of work in one day? well, if no budget deal is reached, we are all about to find out. it's about being active and it's about putting the right fuel in your body. it's that simple. and here's the good news -- it's never too late to start. quaker oatmeal is proven to help lower cholesterol.
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>> female announcer: sandals luxury included resorts now include a once-in-a-lifetime offer: book now, save up to 65%. call 1-800-sandals. if i don't get to come to work on monday, i don't know how i'm going to pay my bills. i guess they want me to tell my 3-year-old daughter in the meantime, she can't eat, she'll have to eat retroactively when i get paid again. >> if the federal government shuts down, people who work in essential services will stay on the job. everybody else will be put on furlough. 800,000 people will be put out of work. 800,000 across the country. that is more than the entire population of denver. with that many people without a paycheck for as long as a shutdown continues, what kind of economic fallout can this cause? we received this comment on our blog from luis.
this is a disgusting game of politics and people always seem to be caught in the middle of it. cnn's casey wian is in long beach, california, for us today. you're at a job fair. i'm curious what kind of reaction you're getting from people there. is it more anger or more understanding? >> reporter: i think it's more frustration is the reaction we're getting here. i am as you mentioned at a job fair. there's about 15 different employers here. southern california edison. the los angeles police department. even forest lawn mortuaries. organizers here are expecting about 500 people over the next couple of hours who are potential applicants for jobs at these companies are offering. for no one is this a good time to be out of work. given the fact the federal government may shut down tomorrow at midnight eastern time, for someone looking for a federal job, it's a particularly difficult time. joining me is one of these job seekers, rich gable. he used to be an i.t. manager for the u.s. census department for three years. now looking if a job hopefully
in the federal government. given the fact the federal government may shut down because there's no budget deal tomorrow, rich, what is that like for you as a job seeker? >> it's very frustrating because the budget is going to affect the hiring ability for the government employers that i'm looking to get a job through, and i've seen this happen in the past. in the '95-'96, i was also working with the government. and saw that, and it was very difficult time. and i see that right now. >> reporter: who do you think is responsible for getting this situation so close to the precipice? >> it's a mixed bag. there are those who in congress who don't want to cut their favorite spending areas and there are those who are recently voted in, elected to reduce the budget and, you know, those two
just have a hard time getting together. >> reporter: are you optimistic, given the situation in the federal government, that you're going to be able to find a federal job any time soon? >> i am praying that i will get a job soon. i can only hope that this budget crisis will come to an end. i don't see an immediate answer to it right now, but -- >> reporter: good luck in your search. thanks for your time. randi, that's it. frustration here. a lot of people looking for work. we'll be following this throughout the day. >> the president said he doesn't want this to take us into another recession. that is being echoed by the people there. casey, thank you. how many government workers are we talking about here? there is the 800,000 we just mentioned. those are the workers deemed nonessential and will be furloughed. that means no work, no pay. there is also another million-plus workers who are deemed essential and will report to work, but they won't get paid for working. at least not for now. if you think this might actually
help the economy, well, guess again. research firm capital economic says it costs as much as 1% of the country's gdp if it goes on long enough. that's a big number. one of the other consequences of a government shutdown, tourism dollars going right down the drain. that part of our special coverage is next. for those of us who have lactose intolerance, let's raise a glass to cookies just out of the oven. to the morning bowl of cereal. and to lactaid® milk. easy to digest and with all the calcium and vitamin d of regular milk. [ female announcer ] lactaid®. the original lactose-free milk.
people here are enjoying the aerospace museum, the institutions, that wouldn't be available to the public is really a crime. we elected these people to do work, not to have gridlock. welcome back. we're devoting this whole hour of cnn to the potential government shutdown. the ripple effect of a shutdown is likely to have huge consequences of many levels. and the threat to the nation's economy and tourism is grave. states around the country would take a hard hit. visiting the washington monument? closed. the st. louis arch? closed. yellowstone? closed. all national museums, monuments and parks across the u.s. would simply shut down. 800,000 visitors a day would be turned away. we're not just talking dollars and sense hecents here either. around this time of year tourists spend $32 million a day. that money, right, it's gone. the impact to travelers would be widespread especially for those visiting the nation's capital. we have kate bolduan at the air
and space museum on the national mall. david mattingly at the great smoky mountain national park in tennessee. kate, let's start with you. the smithsonian museum is one of the most popular destinations along the mall. how many people could be turned away this weekend in just d.c., alone, i'm wondering? >> reporter: in just d.c. alone, it would reach into hundreds of thousands honestly. we're on the national mall by the smithsonian museum. i want to bring in linda st. thomas, a spokeswoman with the smithsonian institution. to help us understand that very question. linda, what could a potential shutdown mean for the smithsonian museum and for visitors? >> for the visitors the impact is huge. you can see how crowded the mall is. i talked to a group of 98 kids that were here from north carolina. they came up on a bus. they were visiting washington through saturday. so i'm hoping that maybe the
museums and the zoo will be open on saturday. because they plan to spend the day at the zoo. >> reporter: what does this mean for the smithsonian's employees? there are thousands of federal employees that work for the smithsonian institution. >> the smithsonian has 4,000 federal employees so we would be furloughed just as the other 2 million federal employees are. a lot of the smithsonian security would be on duty as well as the staff at the zoo to take kcare of the animals. >> reporter: you were here during the -- you were working for the smithsonian during the last shutdown. how is this different? how is this the same? what's your perspective this time around? >> it was 16 years ago, is it was a little bit different. mostly it was mid-december and early january. that is not our tourist season. that's a very quiet time of year. and in addition we were having snowstorms and it was just kind of a mess. right now we are on spring break time. and cherry blossom.
and just in general tourist time for families and school groups. >> reporter: and randi, lynn in mentioned to me just this weekend, alone, if the government shuts down, looking at comparable weekends you could look at a loss of revenue $7 million, having to shut down this weekend. federal employees and linda including hoping it doesn't get to that pay. >> paychecks and revenue vanish in a case like this. kate, thank you. i want to bring in david mattingly, in the great smoky mountain national park in tennessee. i'm curious. what are park visitors telling you? are they afraid they're going to have to pack up and head home? >> reporter: this is a place you normally come to get away from it all and leave your cares behind. today people are bringing a lot of apprehension along with them as they come to visit this park. the most visited park in america. half of the people in the country live within a day's drive of this place. and there's a tremendous amount of traffic through here every
single day. in fact, with me today is a family of 16. they're all from georgia. they make it a family tradition to come here every year at spring break. they're at the end of their vacation. so they're among the lucky ones, but they know what might happen and what people might lose if they get caught by the government shutdown and cannot come to this park next week. what have you seen here that is valuable to your family? >> just being out in the nature and actually being able to interact with different people and also to spend family time and quality time together. >> reporter: the fact the government may shut down and places like this might close, what do you think people might lose? >> they'll lose the opportunity to spend time together with their family. they'll lose the opportunity to see nature. they'll also miss the opportunity to, you know, just vacation out in the -- >> reporter: be out here where you can't get a cell signal. >> that is true. >> reporter: there's a lot of value in that. what does it mean for your
family as you've been able to bring your kids out? >> we do it every year. it just allows us -- it's 50% of the activities that we do while we're on vacation. it gives us time to teach them moments about nature and history and science and weather and everything. >> reporter: it's hard to put a dollar figure on it. you have a personal investment in your vacation every year. how much would it have cost you if the government shut down last weekend? >> three days out of a five-day trip we've been in the park. it probably would have hurt us at least by 50% of what it's cost us. these are full-day activities by coming to the park. >> reporter: what would happen, what do you think people are going to be missing if those gates close and they can't come through here like your family did? >> aside from memories, just learning about history, as she said earlier. science. just different things that you can't learn in a textbook. but the memories just together, actively together makes a big difference. >> reporter: okay. randi, we just heard from the
mcmichael small merit williams from all from georgia. did you have a good time? how could you not? this family has been hiking for the last three days. they can't wait to come back next year for more. they hope more american families will be able to come here and have the same experience they did if there's no shutdown. >> with weather like that they should enjoy the park while they can. david mattingly for us. another victim of a shutdown? the national zoo. it would close, but the people that take care of the animals will continue to work. the ever popular panda cams will remain up. do not fear. you guessed it. if they have a technical problem, that goes unresolved until the government is operating again. while the national zoo is the only federally funded zoo, so the only zoo to close, the national aquarium in washington would have to shut its doors as well. we're getting a ton of comments on our blog. join the conversation on the
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space center, we may not be able to go to work on monday. and there's a lot of, you know, government workers that won't be able either and we don't know yet if we'll even be paid for it. you know, not working. >> back now to the story of the hour. and really for the next 33 hours plus. the search for a deal that will keep the federal government in business past midnight friday. the president is meeting once again with house and senate leaders and promising to veto a one-week extension the house plans to vote on today. we want to get you right to our dana bash what has news about a vote on the house floor. what can you tell us? >> reporter: hi, randi. that's right. there's a vote going on right now. it is on the house republicans, what they say is their attempt to keep the government running should they not find agreement. at this white house meeting or in the next 24 hours to keep the government running on a bill that goes all year. this would just be one week. it would be a one-week stop gap
measure. it also has $12 billion in cuts and it funds the defense department through the rest of the fiscal year. the white house has said the president has said he would veto this. it probably wouldn't get that far. i don't think it would get down the hall behind me to the senate. it wouldn't pass there. republicans are trying to do is say, look, at least we're trying. that's on the policy level, on the political level. they don't want to get the blame if there is a shutdown and they're trying to make as many moves as they can to show that they're doing what they can to avoid a shutdown. democrats, very intense on the house floor, randi. democrats were around there saying if you really meant it you would pass an extension, keeping the government running without any spending cuts at all. >> do we know exactly how far apart the two sides are when it comes to money? >> reporter: very interesting. going into this white house meeting, which is going on as we speak, the house speaker is there, the senate majority leader meeting with the president, still, over at the
white house. everything seemed to be much better last night when they came out after the very late meeting last night. and today things devolved pretty remarkably, randi. the answer to the question is, it depends on who you ask. they're having major differences over what their differences are. that's annoying to people out there watching and saying, can't they get their act together? it is what's going on. democratic sources tell me they actually have a tentative agreement. $34.5 billion. and republicans including the speaker, himself, has said, don't listen to that, we don't have an agreement at all. the big issues are really maybe more than the overall number is what exactly they're going to cut because there are real philosophical differences over what programs and agencies to cut and also policy differences. we've been talking about it all day. things like the epa, the fact that the republicans said that they would not be able to regulate greenhouse gases and maybe most importantly the biggest hot button issue is abortion. that republicans had in their
bill to completely eliminate funding for planned parenthood because of their abortion dealings they have. democrats say that's the wrong way to go. >> we want to take you to the white house where ed henry is standing by. the talks have been continuing in the oval office for the last 90 minutes or so between the president and speaker boehner and the senate majority leader harry reid. any sign of any movement there? >> reporter: no movement at all, randi. they've been in there well over an hour in the oval office. vice president biden joining president obama. as well. you remember this same group got together 8:45 p.m. eastern time last night. they met for almost 90 minutes then deep into the night. then i'm told a senior white house aides along with top congressional aides they met until 2:00, 3:00 in the morning to push it forward. as you heard from dana, they're not quite there yet. the fact these leaders have not emerged from the oval office just yet could be, i stress, could be a good sign just in the fact they are still talking.
if the leaders had come out rather quickly without a deal it would suggest things were heading south pretty fast. the fact they are at least still behind closed doors, still trying to work this out, you know, the posture from the white house press secretary a short time ago at his daily briefing was basically they feel here inside the administration that the american people are watching this and are seeing it. a lot of games playing going on between the parties when they're worried about the economy and their paychecks, worried about rising gas prices and this is another distraction, frankly, the american people do not need right now. nevertheless, both sides still struggling to come together on a deal, randi. >> i'm sure you've asked. i'm curious what the answer is. what is the democratic objection to this one-week extension the republicans have put forward? >> reporter: it's a good question because even as the president issued a veto threat for that short-term bill, he did indicate in a statement, administration did, he would sign another short-term bill if it was quote/unquote, clean, in the sense it did not have
legislative writers dealing with abortion or side issues. as dana was reporting on. so what they are narrowly focused on here at the white house is they say they would veto the short-term bill that only funds the pentagon because they don't believe it's fair to just sort of fund one area. you have to do it all at once in a long-term package. that that's what the president is pushing for so we don't continue to do this week by week by week. as we've seen for at least a few months now. get this done through the end of the year. then what they're hoping inside the white house is that once you get this short to medium-range budget deal you can attack the long-term debt. medicare, medicaid. all these big-ticket items both sides have done little to deal with so far. >> ed henry watching it all on the white house lawn there. thank you, ed. tea party members actually welcome a shutdown. at this rally, take a look in washington yesterday, they held up signs saying cut spending or shut it down. one anti-tax activist issued this challenge to republicans just a few days ago.
>> i say to the republican leadership, take off your lace panties, stop being noodle backs. take a strong, bold, unwavering stand for and with the american people. >> and their cries are not falling upon deaf ears. indiana republican congressman mike pence agrees with them. >> if liberals in the senate would rather play political games and shut down the government instead of making a small down payment on fiscal discipline and reform, i say, shut it down. >> cut it or shut it! cut it or shut it! >> we're going to take you back now in dana bash in washington watching the vote on the house floor. you have an update? >> reporter: it looks like the vote has more than enough votes
to pass. i'm getting in my ear it's 247, again, more than enough votes to pass. looks like the house has -- one-week extension to keep the government running past the deadline. that, of course, is midnight tomorrow night. we should underscore this is a bill that is put forward by house republicans that has $12 billion in cuts. those are cuts that democrats over behind me in the senate and at the white house, the president, himself, has said it's unacceptable and if they want to keep the government running they should just pass a measure with no cuts and keep the government running. on that note, i want to show you something, randi. this is something that we got from a source and it is a notice. this is one of many notices that are going out right here on capitol hill today. warning people that they could be furloughed and will be furloughed. this actually is a furlough notice. i want to read you just one line. it says because your services are not needed for the orderly suspensions of operations and you're not engaged in one of the
exempted functions, you are being placed on furlough effective saturday april 9th 2012 2011. this is going out in case the government does shut down, all across the capitol to lots and lots of staffers. those who are going to be workiwork i ing, who are not furlough r odd have to come in, they're not going to get paid. >> the so-called essential employees. dana bash, keep us up to date there. how do you feel about the government potentially not giving you the services you pay for all because lawmakers can't agree on a budget? next, we'll talk to the people who put these lawmakers into office. people just like you. the american people. that's right after this break.
breaking news now. that meeting at the oval office with the president adjourned. let's listen in. >> believed that we can get to an agreement, but we are not there yet. i did ask the president to sign the stop gap measure that we passed to fund our troops and to keep our government opened. and i did express to the president my disappointment that he suggested he would veto that bill. our goal is to reduce spending in order to lead to a better environment for job creation in america. i do believe that it's important that we take this moment and get the largest spending cuts possible that will help our economy and help job creators back to creating jobs. >> we'll see you back here at
7:00. the negotiators are going to start again at 3:00 today to see if they can work through the issues. we had a frank discussion. we had the necessary parties there to move toward a finish line. i'm disappointed we haven't been able to get something done to this point, but i am pleased that we're still working on getting there. in a matter of a little more than 24 hours, unless we work something out, the government will shut down. essential service to the government will shut down. security operations of this country and on and on with the things that will really be detrimental. including as we've learned from an economic report this morning, just a shutdown of no matter how long it is will be .02% drop in our domestic product. so we're going to continue to work to get this done. it's not easy to do, but it's
doable. and as i said, we don't have a lot of time to do that. we'll get back here at 7:00 and hope that time when we come out we'll have something done. if not, we'll of course have to look forward to a bad day tomorrow which is a government shutdown. >> there you have it. you've been listen to speaker john boehner, senate majority leader harry reid on the white house lawn. they've been meeting with the president and vice president the last hour and 40 minutes or so. still no deal on the budget. both expressed disappointment. they had a very frank discussion. the negotiators are going back to the table at 3:00 p.m. in about 20 minutes. we'll hear from them again at 7:00 p.m. tonight. we'll have that on cnn. just a reminder, we're devoting this entire hour of cnn to a potential government shutdown which we've followed. the house passed a one week stop gap spending bill. we're going to talk to the people who a government shutdown would really affect. you the american people. we're at two locations.
liberty island in new york. and outside cnn headquarters in atlanta. let's start in atlanta this hour, where glena and todd are joining me. glena, let me ask you first. you could hear what the speaker and the senate leader were saying. what are your greatest concerns about a shutdown? >> my greatest concerns are they just don't understand how severe this is. even the statement of they're coming back at 3:00, i'm a child protective service social worker. when we have big meetings we stay and work things out until we get done. it's like it's on their time and they don't have a grasp as to what the american people are really going through. >> how do you think a shutdown would affect you personally? >> my close friends that are still serving in the military. i work for a county agency in north carolina, and all my entire employment is paid by federal funding. and it's like this is a trickle down and it's like the american people who are working really hard just don't know how -- they
don't know how -- we're going to be out of work. we're not going to be able to give services. i'm not going to be able to work with the children i work with. >> todd, i'm curious -- >> i'm disgusted with the possibility of a looming shutdown. we're talking about a million federal employees and this -- our fiscal year comes and goes the same time each year. it's not a surprise to them. so they need to be preparing now for october 1st, 2011, for the next thfiscal year. this is ridiculous. stop playing partisan politics. let's get down to business. >> glenna, todd, we appreciate it. we want to take you to liberty, island, new york, where case is joining me. case, you had to change your vacation because of this potential shutdown? >> richelle with an r. how much time back? >> can you hear me? this is randi. >> we started scheduling this vacation three, four weeks ago. but with a looming -- yes, yes,
randi. i can't hear her. >> go on, you can continue. >> what's wrong? >> she started asking a question. >> hmm. okay. case, can you hear me? if you can, tell me what you think of a possible shutdown? >> well, the possible shutdown, especially our vacation, we went through washington, d.c., and now we're at new york at liberty island. was the park's going to be open for us when we got here. and going week by week, it's not a very good or comfortable situation to be in. >> all right. well we appreciate that. sorry about some of that technical difficulty. there's a bit of a delay. that statue of libb eerty behin you not lost when we think about
what's happening in this country. you just heard what americans think about this possible shutdown. what are they saying about it overseas? we're taking you live to carnaby street in london. [ male announcer ] this is james. the morning after the big move starts with back pain... and a choice. take advil now... and maybe up to 4 in a day. or, choose aleve and 2 pills for a day free of pain. smart move. ♪ or 100 calories? with yoplait delights, now you can finally have both. two indulgently rich layers
a week's pay and give it to the government. >> one of our many i-reporters. keep the i-reports coming. what do folks overseas think about this possible shutdown? does your average londoner know about it or care about it? we want to bring in becky anderson from a very busy carnaby street in london. becky, what are people telling you? has anything like this ever happened in britain? >> reporter: let me tell you, randi, the annual overdraft addiction is old news to the people in the uk. obama may think he's deferring treatment as it were until the u.s. elections. maybe coming up with something at that point. british lawmakers have been fighting budget cuts for months now. despite sit-ins and protests they're going ahead with us austerity measures. they might be bitterly d disappoi disappointed. the u.s. embassy here, processes
300 and 600 visa applications a day. if there's a shutdown, they'll be on emergency services. officially, there goes those visas and trips. that's effectively the impact of a u.s. shutdown here in the uk. we still thought we'd get out and about and find out what people really thought. this is what they said. do you care about the u.s. government closing down this evening? >> no. >> reporter: they can't agree on anything. >> have they ever? >> i have not heard about this. when did this happen? >> reporter: been watching cnn? >> i've been in london all day. that's probably why. >> reporter: do you like government? >> not really. i don't think i should really say the words i feel about it. >> reporter: do you care? >> no. >> reporter: she was italian. now, listen, people are going about their business effectively, randi, at this point. we did find one man who had something a little bit more intelligent, as it were, to say. this is what he said. >> it doesn't seem right based
upon what's been happening over the last 20 years. obviously the financial deficit is a big problem around the world. the case main america, i doubt whether it will actually come to that. >> reporter: one place that might have more sympathy for what's going on in the states is belgium. they hold the record for the longest nonfunctioning government as it were. about a year now. we found belgian girls on the street. this is what they had to say. >> didn't change for us. we didn't know this change. >> reporter: you're better off without government? >> yeah. actually, yes. >> reporter: they think you might be better off with a government that just sort of goes to bed for a few days and sorts itself out. as i say, you know, seriously, people here really quite unaware of the story in the states. it does affect a very small
basis, with the work the u.s. embassy does here with visas. as we fight our own austerity measures in the uk, we're getting on with things. >> the international perspective is interesting and eye opening. becky anderson on carnaby street. you heard becky talk about belgium, canada's government closed for a couple months, too. the year 2009. steven harper shut down parliament for two months to, quote, recalibrate. during that time the budget was tabled as well as dozens of government bills killed. we are getting a ton of comments on our blog. join the conversation about the government shutdown on the blog. go to cnn.com/ali. or you can post your thoughts on ali's facebook and twitter pages and do the same at my facebook and twitter pages as well. we still have about ten minutes left in our special. we'd love to get more comments from you on this possible government shutdown. share your video stories with us by going to
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function would stop. and that's where our big breakdown today comes in. federal monuments, museums and parks. well, those would actually be closed as of saturday. another blow to our spring and summer travel plans. passports and visa applications, yes, those would be not possible to get anymore. they would pile up really. don't worry. air traffic controllers will keep working. as well the president. yes, he will still be working in the oval office. congress as well will also be working. homeland security also on the job. military operations. the wars. those will not be interrupted. but troops, well, they may have to wait for their paychecks. that gets a big thumbs down from us. some of us might have to wait for our tax refunds. seems many irs workers, yeah, they're going to be nonessential. so that would be bad. thumbs down. and don't blame the mail. the postal service will actually be earning its keep and will not
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included. and keeping those astronauts safe. on the ground. wherever it might be. and basically healthy in space as well. you don't think about that. all this information comes back from the astronauts that are up there on the iss. they have to figure out whether they're healthy, doing their exercises up there. personnel operating the iss will be an essential employee. engineers and technicians operating any nasa spacecraft. you don't think about this. there many spacecrafts out there just flying around looking at venus, mars. we saw those pictures of mercury a while ago. you can't take your hands off the controls and say fend for yourself. >> when people think of a shutdown, you don't think about nasa. >> what's shutdown mean when people are still going to get paid? it's half a shutdown. it's essential or not. >> thank you, chad. helping us understand all that. thanks for joining us for this hour. that will do it for me. we appreciate hearing your voices